Funny how many people find the perfect 28 load works well in a 20 as well. I started loading them for skeet a decade ago. It was mostly a matter of economics. 28 empties have always been worth more than 12 or 20's and often hard to come across. I came into a very large number of 20 hulls just when my last two sons were getting into skeet and found a 3/4 ounce was perfect for their needs. They have filled a need and I have zero complaint about them. If you do your part they will break birds just as well as any 20 or 28 load.