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24850 (Late 1882)


SXS, I don't have your gun in the master list. We like to see pics and obtain some additional info for historical purposes if possible. Does your gun have "Rue Scribe" or Paris on the rib?

Per the above chronology and serial number list, I'd estimate 24850 to have been numbered between November 1883 and February 1884.

Analysis or how you can use those serial number lists to date your gun:
— 15270 is the first Paris address on a rib I've found; he opened Rue Scribe in early Feb 1868 (see the History chronology - 3rd post on this line).
— 26584 is the last gun I've found with a Paris address; he closed Rue Scribe in August 1886.

Between Feb 68 and Aug 86 (222 months) he numbered about 11,200 guns; that would be about 50+ numbered guns a month at a steady rate (and it obviously fluctuated).(on reflection this production rate stayed pretty steady from 1868 to 1898 - perhaps this was the maximum he could produce?)..say 620 a year.

So just assuming this is correct, your gun would be about the 9,600th numbered gun produced after he opened Rue Scribe… 192 months after Feb 1868 = 16 years. So I’d estimate it to be have been made in Feb-March 1884...counting forward from the 1868 marker date.

You can also count backward from the August 1886 marker date. 26584 is the last gun numbered before the close of Rue Scribe, August 1886. Your gun was the 1,734th gun numbered before the close of Rue Scribe - at 50 a month = about 34 months. August 1886 minus thirty four months would put it in Nov/Dec 1883.

To check further...look at the patents on your gun. It may have the following:
1863 - Patent: 'Purdey Bolt' patent no. 1104
1864 - Patent: 'Scott Spindle' patent no. 2752
1872 - Patent: Anson's fore-end fastener patent no. 3791
1874 - Patent: Needham patented a hammerless, barrel-cocking gun which was also the first ejector in 1874.
1875 - Patent: W.M. Scott's patent 3223
1875 - Patent: Anson & Deely patent; the first hammerless gun with top lever.
1878 - Patent: Mills 3rd bite patent no 4980
1878 - Patent: Patent Number 761 was recorded by William Middleditch Scott and Thomas Baker

It should not have the later patents seen on Reilly's such as:
1889 - Patent; Southgate lockwork, ejector and interceptor sear patent no 12314
1893 - Patent; Southgate's ejector trip patent no 8239

Last edited by Argo44; 09/11/18 09:08 PM.
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