Yes Sir Mr. Murphy, This particular shotgun was a sxs 12 ga., Ithica. It was one of a group of guns that came off of papa's boat. I state for the record all of this told to me by the owner of these guns, as a collector myself I'm of the belief that a gun story and a quarter will get you a cup of coffee.

Never the less the gun in question was nothing fancy, plain Jane wood (Lots of cast off) and fit me oh so well. It must have been built to fit some weirdo as it fit me to a "T".

Vary heavy live bird gun, nothing that would appeal to many here on this site.

I can shoot a gun I get used to, if I shoot it enough. I'm a marvel with a gun that fits.

The owner did check my eye position by looking at my eye in relation to the front and middle bead and did declare it a perfect. The stock was shorter than normal with a pad. The gun had not one drop of engraving. As an aside means nothing really, but my test on mounting the gun passed every test I know, only gun this has ever happened to me.

That is the extent of my memory of the gun, but that's been over 20 years ago. Sorry.