Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
But we do address automobile carnage in a thousand ways. It's worth pointing out that accidental hiway deaths are not the same as deliberate murder. Both are severe issues and deserve attention. The answer to mass shootings by adolescents is to keep AR-15's out of their hands.


A death is a death, accidental or not... especially where they are preventable. Have you ever been to the funeral of a teen who was killed in a vehicular accident? Accidental highway deaths aren't the same as school shooting deaths because there are on average, over 400 times as many deaths resulting from teen driving. Other than that, there is still a grieving family and a dead body in a casket. If you seriously feel that the key to stopping school shootings is keeping AR-15's out of their hands, then we can save thousands more live annually by keeping vehicles and cell phones out of their hands.

But it is no surprise to see either SKB or rocky mtn bill jumping to support the knee jerk solution of blaming the gun, because both of them are reliable supporters of anti-gun Democrats. The only difference between them is that Bill can admit it, and Steve is in denial of the obvious.

There is no question that gun owners and the NRA have an image problem. That is because the Left and guys like Steve and Bill support politicians and a News Media that relentlessly attacks the 2nd Amendment while hypocritically ignoring things like SSRI side effects, and things that kill far more people such as auto accidents, drug overdoses, and medical mistakes.

And I simply LOVE how SKB has me on IGNORE and doesn't see my posts! If nothing else, threads such as this tend to flush out those who continually help the Liberal Left Democrats who work so tirelessly to erode our rights. When Conservatives finally do relent and offer up some support for gun control, those on the Left always act as if it is something they really wanted. And when they do concede some ground, the anti-gunners always return for more restrictions. Reagan did not pass any bans on semi-auto AR-15 type guns. That was done after he left office. The Firearms owners Protection Act did ban future transfer of unregistered FULL AUTO firearms when the Democrat Hughes Amendment was added to the bill at the last minute, and the Left twists that by saying he signed a ban on assault weapons. That is a lie. It was Bill Clinton who signed the 10 year ban on many semi-automatic assault style firearms. The law had a 10 year sunset provision that was allowed to expire under George W. Bush, and there is NO EVIDENCE that either Reagan or George H.W. Bush would have supported extending the 10 year ban that was shown to be ineffective in deterring violent crime. In fact, Michael Reagan has said that his father's 1994 support in a letter to Congress was due to the onset of his Altzheimer's disease. When rocky mtn bill or King Brown offer statistics or so-called facts about gun control, it is always best to check them. Their "facts" about gun control come from anti-gunners and the DNC.

A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.