Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Yes, Drew, It makes sense to guard our children. However, that isn't all it makes sense to do. Why should we settle for hunkering down? That's got to be a temporary measure. On another topic, the AR-15 is our worst enemy as gun owners. It has come to represent everything about firearms that the general public won't tolerate. It appeals precisely to those people who should never get their hands on a gun. Granted most owners are responsible people, but deranged shooters know it is the weapon of choice. Make them Class III.


Wow, some good points have been made since last night, and some incredibly stupid ones such as Bill's predictable suggestion to get rid of AR-15 or to make them Class III.

Public perception is important, to be sure. Once again, that's why I keep saying that we as gun owners need to counteract the lying media and the lying Liberal Left with the facts that dangers from AR-15's are minuscule compared to seemingly benign things like teen driving and texting while driving. Not that many years ago, the Left and the media advanced and nurtured the perception that handguns were the big evil. If they ever succeed at banning AR-15's, you can bet handguns will become their target once again.

Stevie's comment about the Las Vegas shooter hitting over 400 people once again ignorantly ignores the Nice, France attack where a rented truck was used to kill and injure even more people. So using his AR-15 versus Mauser argument, is he also suggesting that we should eliminate large trucks from our country because they can do much more damage than small trucks?

Oh wait... Stevie says he doesn't wish to ban AR-15's. But he did say they should be classified as Class III firearms and he did say wouldn't care if they became as extinct as the dodo bird. Well, that should certainly make us all feel that he's the reincarnation of Charleton Heston!

And once again, Jagermeister insists we should be required to secure all of our guns in a safe... even though he doesn't do that. And he is another Libtard who must run like a coward from the fact that killers don't need an AR-15 to kill and injure large numbers of people.

This morning, there was a spokesperson for Handgun Control Inc. on Fox News and she was asked the reasons that anti-gunners want a ban on the AR-15, and what the difference was between them and millions of other semi-auto rifles and shotguns. One of her points was that the .223 or 5.56 m/m round is so needlessly powerful because it has a velocity 3 times faster than most handgun rounds, and does so much damage to flesh. By that logic, almost all bolt action deer, elk, or varmint rifles are much worse in terms of velocity and energy.

I like Drew's idea of really securing the perimeter of our schools like they do in Central America until we can find better ways to keep mentally ill killers from targeting them. It's sad to think that adults in those countries are intelligent enough to protect their kids in a way most Liberals resist. Most of us are smart enough to understand that a total ban on AR-15's, AK-47's, SKS's, Mini 14's and other hi-capacity semi auto rifles is still going to leave tens of millions of them out there. The owner of my local gun shop said he has sold a dozen AR-15's just in the last week in response to the latest calls to ban them. I'd guess that same scenario is playing out in almost every gun store in the U.S right now. We have armed security and metal detectors at our Courthouses, Government Buildings, and Airports, etc., so why would people like rocky mtn bill be stupid enough to resist the same for our schools? And especially when their predictable Liberal Left anti-gun solutions would be useless other than helping the anti-gunners get closer to their goal of eventually eliminating our gun rights and our guns.

Remember folks, the dishonest polling organizations that are telling you that 93% of Americans want these AR-15 bans, Universal Background Checks, etc. are the same Polls that said Trump was going to lose in a landslide of historic proportions. Gun owners who are not weak, fearful, or stupid should stand and fight... not crumble. We should never be afraid or ashamed to protect our Civil Rights, and the RKBA is a fundamental Civil Right.

A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.