I guess I'm out of the loop. I don't quite understand the poster's negative comment. I won't be buying any more competition shotguns, but if I were in the market I might be looking at the F3 or F16 as one of my choices. I am a bit loaded up with antique Krieghoffs and almost antique Berettas and I am 72 years old, so my needs for comp guns are at an end.