What most of you seem to be missing is the unarguable effects of having massive urban areas making up a significant (majority) of a state's population. As Woody402 pointed out, those who live in upstate New York have the same issue.

And suggesting they just elect more like minded individuals who will fix the problem is so foolishly simplistic it borders on willful ignorance.

As long as the state's population base is dominated by those who live in LA, the Bay area and San Diego, this problem will exist. As it does for every other jurisdiction that is dominated, population wise, by very large urban areas.

Rather than shitting on other gun enthusiasts, you would do well to find a way to support them. You will be next. There is an ongoing and massive demographic shift from rural to urban, from small towns and small cities, to massive urban regions. It's only a matter of time before it comes to a state near you.

And before my advice is misconstrued, it applies equally to those who vote for anti gun politicians, no matter where you live. That constitutes shitting on other gun owners.

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