The first gun I ever shot in my life was a Win model 1885 low wall made in 1887. It was chambered for longs though my understanding is it was mostly used with shorts. My Grandad bought it for his youngest son, my uncle, during the depression for "Less than a Dollar" my dad said. It has now been handed down to my Grandson, though it bypassed me, my Dad & my Son. I never had the privilege of hunting with it. Don't recall barrel length now but suspect 28" & was a full octagon.

Miller/TN
I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra