Carole's forend has the definite Fox look. Runs, not only did I spell Ziegfeld incorrectly, you did also, in post #541576. We are at a draw. We saw some great Fox skeet guns at the Baltimore Show this weekend, but no schnables. A great Skeet and Upland, and a greater Kautsky trigger gun, an SPE Skeet, in near mint condition. Both sold to Fox collectors who know a good buy when they see it.