I shoot Brownings, Berettas, and 870s. The Beretta is a more solid feeling action, will never shoot loose in normal use. Of course, I feel that shooting an 870 is like cheating. I shot a 20 gauge 870 in the Maryland State NSSA shoot a few years ago, just because, and ran 100, lost in the shootoff because I switched to my Krieghoff, big mistake. When I switched from pump guns to over unders for competitive skeet in the mid eighties, it took a good year to get back up to speed. The only reason I don't shoot pump guns today is because I can't bend over to pick up the first shell when shooting doubles. My last NSSA shoot with my Model 12s was a 99 in 12 gauge. My first year shooting competitive International Skeet was with that same Model 12, 12 gauge.