Originally Posted By: 2-piper
Do note that what Larry mentioned was the old Super Pigeon load @ 3-1, not the 3 3/4-1 High-Velocity load. A big difference between them.


Indeed there is. Like 33 ft-lbs of recoil in an 8# gun vs 26.3 ft-lbs. But that High Velocity 3 3/4 DE load is the Super-X formula, which has been around for a long time. And which is now regarded by some as a real slow poke, compared to the 1400 fps (or faster) 1 1/4 oz loads being sold as "Premium" pheasant shells.