Ted: Well...yes. Your Darne is a classic example of yet another excellent option for an upland bird gun. The round action Ideals are another example. They are clearly out there. To your point on "ultimate" solutions... no question, such a highly specialized tool isn't going to be inexpensive nor will it have much utility outside of it's area of specialization. It's simply the price one pays for the concept. My 16 has been everything I'd hoped it would be and then some. I'd just like to know if there is something more out there. Perhaps something better for the very specific game I'm playing. And, since I've handled several over the years, I'm curious.

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