Yeah, the Germanic folks have an aversion to the term >>Caveman<< I believe so I think we've settled on >>Wildmann<< with a Staff. I just flipped thru Jim Cate's text & for the 61xxx sequence he gives circa 1900. But with the Doll's Head & the Early 3 Ringe Krupp steel stamp it would date from the mid 1890s to 1900? I am still curious as to the load data. If you thumb thru the Sauer Crown's thread, there is quite a bit of info & I have the images still on Photobucket but I have not rectified my account as of yet.

Do it have a menacing muzzle or cross-hatching between the tubes on the business end?

Cheers,

Raimey
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