There are light years difference in the effectiveness of 8s vs 9s. Hard 8s are used effectively to grass wild pigeons in flyer shoots. I've used 8s in the bottom (first) barrel almost without exception, and 7 1/2s in the top (second).

IMO, if they will kill a pigeon dead at 30 yards a dove or quail is a piece of cake. JMM, YMV


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