The top gun of mine that Fred just posted is my #4, which duplicates as nearly as possible the 1909 Krag sporter of Paul Jenkins done by Steve Munier. #4 is a wonderful shooter. It has a throat much shorter than the arsenal Krags. I can breech seat 308274 with its prominent front band in fixed ammunition. I'd shot a lot of good groups with this one. The other is #5. On the off side of the gun is a cheek piece and a Lyman #48.#5 shoots well too. If I have pictures of #s 1 and 2, I don't have them anymore