Thanks, Keith, George. The shells are my handloaded Cheddite paper hulls, cut to 2". I'm using International powder, a BP gas seal, 3/8" Alcan Feltan-Bluestreak fiber wad, 7/8 oz. #8 and roll crimped. A forum member generously shared his unfired, primed paper hulls with me in anticipation of my loading shells for my 2" 12 ga. I should get minimum of 3 loads per hull. Gil