A. Fresh to the market ..
....A Joh. Kalezky 's Witwe 20 bore, SLE
A thread in the doublegun BBs section appeared with the title "J Kalezky 20"
started by "ksauers1" with some posts.
I will provide some answers here under my thread instead under the initial one.
Turning 84 this weekend, I thought I will make me a present and
sent an e-mail to the seller asking on min-barrel-thicknesses, serial-nr , proofmarks...
I have never bought and will never buy a gun without barrel-measurements by me
or a person I trust.
I called also the seller.
The gun already sold.
The photos tell me the gun has not been "done-up-for-sale/embellished", the
script on the barrel still clearly readable, nothing reblacked, probably
for sale as found
The serial nr is 2171, for a genuine Kalezky-built gun, fitting into the
number range in the vicinity.
No proof-marks nor barrel-measurements known.
To be fair with the seller he is telling he has a
"e-commerce businness / click-to-buy-business-model".
What may be a mandatory info for a gun-collecotor may be simply
an undue requirement for an e-commerce shop..
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You dont ask the Amazon e-commerce empire for a condition report
on a Chinese garment or a bottle of German Riesling.
Guns are already on this merchandise level.
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Proofmark:
I have tried to intrapolate it from a 16-bore which emerged in the
1990's in US and a pair of Hungaro/Russian 12-bores.
It is probably 92.02 NPv.
The Hungaro/Russian pair has similar shape as this one.
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# 1 is in Hungary, #2 in Russia. As usual, once an Internet knowledgable Moscow cowboy
has found out what his grandpa has brought back as WW II booty, he believes
he is a millionaire
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The chokes are on the verge to 3/4 chokes.
THE Kalezky hare-gun configuration, with the obliterated crest on the triggerguard
with high probability another WW II booty from a noble house.
In 1902 as pair NOT available for folks with working-class-salary.
As a 20-bore possibly for an aristo-octogenarian who no longer could
afford to walk 20 km on frozen freshly-ploughed ground to hunt hares hiding behind
clods.
Rather waiting to get these driven towards him.
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I am curious if the gun sooner or later will reappear on the market, as
it has a choke masochistic for a birdhunter.
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Why then a 84-years oldie , addicted to light-weight
open-choked English 12-bore birdguns,
should go for such a 120 years old J.Kalezky 20-bore hare-hunting museum-piece,
by all means the most unnecessary gun to go for....
Raimey/ellenbrs has told in his post under the original thread
"We are all odd ducks....
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B. Fresh to the market / continued
...A J. Kalezky DB rifle SLE in 8x75..
Few years ago a Californian hunter contacted me and told me he has bought
a Kalezky DB rifle at an auction there.
Asking me to provide him a label for guncase, which I did.
This is the first emergence of an Kalezky DB rifle SLE I ever came across.
Here is a photo of the Kalezky catalogue page on this type of rifle.
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https://www.jpgbox.com/page/68959
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I checked the history page of the auction house which still has photos of the rifle
available.
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C. Fresh to the market / continued
.... 40000 ha Austrian hunting grounds on the market for rent
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Who has such quantity of grounds for rent?.
This country has never been a commie country, the one commie riot post-1945
failed / contrary to neighbouring countries.
Never any type of expropriation / contrary to neighbouring countries.
Thus there still exist huge paläo-feudal properties/estates.
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An Austrian hunting license is combined with the subscription of a hunting
magazine.The last one contained a flyer on "Pannatura",
a subcompany of one of these feudal empires.
As usual, the legal construct of these feudal empires based on
a half dozen of "Privatstiftung" companies located in Liechtenstein.
Offering hunts on one of their total of 40000 ha of grounds, on open fields, forests
and water/reed areas.
Given this massive ad campaign it seems they are in trouble to find customers.
No wonder , friends of mine had rented one of their "Jagdrevier".
They seem to confuse a customer with a subordinate/subject.
Their experience "Avoid them".
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F.N.

Last edited by felix; 03/10/22 05:43 PM.