Don't mean to stink up the place, But... I pulled from the rack a recent purchase[LC Ideal] that doesn't have an original buttplate[now pachmyer] and has the pitch cut at 90 degrees to the comb. Using the wall method, I placed it against the wall the fences never touch the wall, the lever hits first and the barrels are 5 1/2" from the wall. Mounting the gun, I can feel only about an inch or so of the heal actually touching the top of the pocket. Again, I'm not up to speed on all the pitch theory, but the Ideal is going to to meet Mr. Dewalt. No intention of stepping on any toes, just an observation. Randy


RMC