SKB probably has the ultimate elk muzzleloader, and it is gigantic. Maybe the builder did that for a reason. A few years ago, I chased an elk a long way and it turned out my buddy had made a good hit with a .50 cal muzzleloader. The pack out sucked, and the meat tasted like shit as a bonus. Literally put a bad taste in my mouth for muzzleloaders. A similar thing happened on the Meat Eater show on Netflicks but he never did recover the thing. I guess it just happens sometimes, but I've never seen it happen with any .308 or .30-06 based cartridge. Happy Thanksgiving!