Its really not about me.Buzz and had a good row about a gun he has for sale we worked it out no harm.But when you offer a fair price for a gun and the owner doesn't no the frame size on his high grade Parker that's a issue. Parker owner had a average 12 Sterlingworth which I can buy one every 3 years local in Texas for 650 wanting 2k.Guess I am to soft hearted.